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kartracer28 Senior Member

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What size sheet did you use and where did you get them from// Thanks Ronney
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my jc tritoon came with underskin from the factory in 1990 and since then it has floated all year in water. We never had any wooden floor problems and the ride is so queit
Every toon boat should have it
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I know this is an old topic but maybe someone can help me with this question. I have access to several sheets of restaurant grade stainless steel 4 x8 panels that are 1/32 in thick. (for free) They were being used to cover restaurant/kitchen walls.
Would these work for underskinning?
My boat only has a 40hp and is 18ft long so I am concerned about weight..
Thanks for any input.
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Pretty thin, but it might work. Are your crossmembers spaced at 16 inches or 24 inches or something inbetween? If they are 16 or 18 inches, I give it a try. If they're 24 inches, then I'd look for something heavier..
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Hey guys, I was searching underskinning and trying to find out the reasons for it.. so far I got that it helps speed, smoother ride. My question is when I get underway (In the Bay) and the waves kick up a bit... my rug gets soaked to the point it seeps thru.. is that normal... I've checked the wood from underneath the boat (When out of the water) and there are no holes or worn spots...? Is this normal and/or another reason for underskinning? Thanks..
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that's another reason for underskinning, but it shouldn't be soaking through. You haven't told us anything about your boat and you don't have it listed in your signature line for us to know, plus pics (not in here though) of your boat (show off your pontoon) would definitely help (and pics top, side, underneath - we love it all) 
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Mine gets the carpet wet too. The water gets forced up between the
deck and the cross member at the point where two floor boards butt
together. It's not supposed to do that because there should be a joint
tape between the boards and crossmembers. Underskinning would
help to prevent the water from coming up through the floor.
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I have been reading the posts on underskinning. I work for a printing company and we have aluminum plates left from the printing process on the large presses. If they are at least .063 thick, do you see any reason they would not work? I don't know the exact demensions, but if they are not wide enough, would it be a problem it they were seamed together?
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I'd bet they are wide enough, think about it, you only need 4ft thereabout (measure between your toons), then measure between your supports. If you can alternate supports, then you'd only need a 1 inch overlap (so add 2 inches to the centers of your supports) or measure from the outside edge of one support you'd screw into to the outside edge of the alternate support you could overlap the next. So 38-52 inches total length
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Don't see a problem with seams. You would probably want to apply a sealer such as NP-1, silicone or something flexible and rivet or screw the seams together to keep water out. There is alot of turbulence in between the toons in the center so it needs to be secure but should work.
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I have a 2004 Sun Tracker Party Barge 24 with a Mercury 75
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I looked today and the plates are 31'X 40.5' X .30 thick. My toons are 62' apart and the crossmembers measure 26' from outside to outside (24' centers). The guy who works in the plate making room told me that he could cut the plates by scoring them with a knife and then bending them like you would break sheetrock. It leaves a jagged edge that can be smoothed off easily by running a file over it. Given that, I am not sure the plates would hold up long term. I would hate to put a lot of work into attaching them and then have them break off. So, what to do? What to do?
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plates are too thin and would cause more noise than you could stand not to mention they would/might tear lose causing more problems. Look for the right stuff to get it right the first time and you'll be happier, although less heavy in the pocket books.
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.30in would be pretty heavy in my opinion. Thats over 1/4 in thick?? 30 gauge or .030 inch now thats a different story. I used some 26 gauge 'R' panel standing seam roofing under mine and it has done well.
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Yeah because I was thinking he meant .030 of an inch but because of his description of it, it sounded thin so that's what I based it on. 
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Wildcat Dude wrote:
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I agree. It was one of those 'good ideas at the time' but I can see where it will cause problems down the road. Even though the label on the sheets read .30, those plates are no where near 1/4 inch thick. So, maybe a project for this off season. Thanks for the advice guys.
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