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Wildcat Dude Admin Group

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Ummmm, interesting, and I have seen what was behind my seats after 20+ years, but the fence itself was just dull, besides what I don't see , I won't see and I'll be dead and gone before the next person takes those seats off. (well, maybe) 
__________________ Charles - Smyrna, TN
93 Voyager 20ft
1984 Johnson 115HP
68-77 USAF SP-K9
Vietnam - DaNang 69, Tuy Hoa 70
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pritch, the rebuild looks like it's coming along nicely. You've done a super job by the way it looks! I jotted the name of that wax down, cause I am going to give it a try, if I can find it.
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pritch272 Senior Member

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WCD, I'm not saying that I'd pull the seats to clean behind, but while I'm redoing everything it falls in line with starting off again with clean everywhere.
Thanks toonrider, that wax may seem expensive when you buy it, but a little really does go a long way, so in the end I dont feel its any more than anything else. I paid $29 plus shipping back on Jan 7, 2007 for that bottle, and it's still between 1/3 and 1/2 full. I misspoke earlier when I said I had it for 3+ years, it's actually about 2 1/2 years. Google those 2 words and you'll get back many hits.
Link to that wax
***removed content from site which is not permitted, but linking to it like this is*** 
Edited by Wildcat Dude on 06/14/2009 at 7:37am
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2002 90 HP Johnson,
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pritch272 Senior Member

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ok- back in town and will continue the boat project-
Whats the best way to secure the seats to the deck? Just pick a few spots and stick some screws in? Don't think I received any screws with the seats for this....
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Wildcat Dude Admin Group

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Nope, you supply them, see robbsracing post regarding screws, we talked about it there. 
__________________ Charles - Smyrna, TN
93 Voyager 20ft
1984 Johnson 115HP
68-77 USAF SP-K9
Vietnam - DaNang 69, Tuy Hoa 70
Retired Police Detective 94
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Charles do you remember about what page. I am about to do the same thing and would like to know what others did.
I found the part in Rob's post about the bolting of the seats to the base but not to the deck. thanks for the help !!!
Kartracer
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Basically just use stainless steel wood screws is what I used, just don't screw it through the raised channels as that would block the drainage under the seats.
__________________ Charles - Smyrna, TN
93 Voyager 20ft
1984 Johnson 115HP
68-77 USAF SP-K9
Vietnam - DaNang 69, Tuy Hoa 70
Retired Police Detective 94
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On my boat, the wood screws are fairly large that secure the plastic bases to the deck. There is one in each corner and they're about 3/16 inch in diameter X 1 1/4 inches long. They also have a large washer on each one (Similar to a fender washer). Also, anywhere that one seat meets another or an armrest, they are screwed together with two of the same screws and washers. All are stainless of course.
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Thanks Rick, I forgot to mention the large washers.
__________________ Charles - Smyrna, TN
93 Voyager 20ft
1984 Johnson 115HP
68-77 USAF SP-K9
Vietnam - DaNang 69, Tuy Hoa 70
Retired Police Detective 94
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pritch272 Senior Member

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Thanks for the feedback for mounting the seats-
On the new remote, (I'm liking this remote already):
Got the handle moved to the other side on the remote, decided to leave the trim-tilt switch on the right-end- seems others driving the boat did not realize that they were pressing this switch on the old control, this will keep it away from unsuspecting thumbs...

So, I think I'll mount this with the key switch slightly pointing down, that will lessen the angle that the cables will need to make to do a vertical drop to the floor. The task for this weekend is to mount the seats, the new remote and associated cables. Also need to strap down the gas tank and to finalize the battery and oil tank placement.
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Looking good 
__________________ Charles - Smyrna, TN
93 Voyager 20ft
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68-77 USAF SP-K9
Vietnam - DaNang 69, Tuy Hoa 70
Retired Police Detective 94
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kartracer28 Senior Member

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Pritch,,,Mounted my seat today with 1/4 X 1 Hex Head Tek Screws and fender washer,,, WORKED GREAT Kartracer
__________________ Houma Louisiana "Home Of The 2010 Cajun Toon Gathering"
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Thanks, Kartracer!
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OK, am I looking at the picture of your controls wrong...it looks like you have to activate the trip up and trim down with your pinky, not your thumb? That would take a little getting used to. Sure is a nice clean looking setup though.
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pritch272 Senior Member

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That's correct Mike-
I can move it to the thumb side, but then it would be easy to press accidentally by those who do not realize it's there- I'm the only one I want to be trimming the motor, and I'll do it awkwardly, but at least it will not be pressed accidentally by others who just grab that handle and squeeze-
Maybe I'll rethink this and move it, not sure, depends on how easy it it to be accidentally pressed.
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Next up, getting the new remote cables routed, had to put holes in the cross members underside again, what a pain, it was so hot, could only do 2 holes at a time, then stopped for a break, then go at it again, until all were made.

A little dry fitting...

The holes...

Couldn't finish mounting, thought I needed cotter keys, which I had at the house, but had them all along with the new hardware, didn't bother to check. I also needed to make something to beef up the mounting with.
Needed some way to mount the fuel tank, at least for the upcoming weekend, decided to use a piece of the old decking...

Found a spot for the oil tank...

And the battery, too...

That was it for Saturday, it hit 100 degrees ...
Sunday wasn't much better, 97 degrees.
Here are the backings for the remote, made from plastic from the old seats:

And the completed mounting:

Time to make sure it all worked:

Worked fine, a little tight, just need to get used to it.
Here's hoping I can leave the tops up when putting it in and out of the boat shed:

Although I don't have the rear material on yet, it looks promising. I had to pull the boat home to retrieve the frame for the rear bimini, 21 miles each way.
Next weekend is fast approaching, final items before we start pulling tubes, etc is to get the rear material on, bolt the seats down, mount the fishing seats, maybe install the new stereo-
I did not connect the tach and voltmeter, was going to, but something about setting a switch on the rear of the tach to the specific motor alternator that I have caught my eye, so I didn't know what setting to use so I left it alone, any thoughts? I'll have to call PS today and ask.
That's all for now.
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Wildcat Dude Admin Group

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Should be 6P
__________________ Charles - Smyrna, TN
93 Voyager 20ft
1984 Johnson 115HP
68-77 USAF SP-K9
Vietnam - DaNang 69, Tuy Hoa 70
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Looking goof on the finishing touches. I was working on the wiring for my jon boat this weekend and yep, 107 both days (HOT HOT). Pulled the boat under a tree for some relief (oh thank ye for the little wind that did blow some) I managed an hour at a time before I was soaking wet and couldn't see with the sweat in my eyes or looking like I was crying on my glasses.
Boy that thing just did fit under that roof with the top up didn't it. One thing I noticed though, have you checked to make sure you can tilt that motor up and turn side to side without that piece of wood obstructing travel? I sure do like the looks of that remote control. Looks high tech (and I like high tech looks ) except on vintage cars of course. Boat is looking really good Pritch.
__________________ Charles - Smyrna, TN
93 Voyager 20ft
1984 Johnson 115HP
68-77 USAF SP-K9
Vietnam - DaNang 69, Tuy Hoa 70
Retired Police Detective 94
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pritch272 Senior Member

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Yes, I moved that motor every which way- that wood is a temp solution anyway.
The switch is for cylinder count- makes sense, I have a V4 so it's 4 for me.
__________________ Pritch-
Martinez, GA
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Great install on the throttle - looks factory to me . Thanks for all of the pics.
Dave
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AZ Party Barge
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Pritch, the switch on the back of the Tach is for alternator 'Pulses', not cylinder count. Since your engine has a 12 pole alternator, you would divide that by 2 and set the switch to '6P' as Wildcat suggested. If the tach you have only has settings for 'Cylinders' on the back, then it won't work on your motor..
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pritch272 Senior Member

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Well, someone needs to enlighten PS...

I'll keep a look out for the 6P...
Thanks-
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DLCulbertson wrote:
Great install on the throttle - looks factory to me . Thanks for all of the pics.
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Thanks, Dave, I appreciate that.
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Decided to get in another 2 or 3 hours after work today-
First I just had to know for sure if I can leave the Bimini tops up...

Looks like about 4 inches clearance to me. Woo Hoo!
Then I finished screwing down the seats, putting the cushions on, and installing the front fishing seats.

I wiped them down with 303, they shine, yes?
That's all for today.
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YES 
__________________ Charles - Smyrna, TN
93 Voyager 20ft
1984 Johnson 115HP
68-77 USAF SP-K9
Vietnam - DaNang 69, Tuy Hoa 70
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Pritch,
That boat is looking fantastic. You've done an excellent job.
__________________ Slow Joe
03 Party Barge 20 ft.
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Hey Pritch, yes I'll say they shine! You had better hang on when you sit down, or you may slip right off and land on the floor. The toon's looking great!!
__________________ Randy in NE Iowa
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Thanks for all the positive comments.
__________________ Pritch-
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Had a good day on the water Saturday for the 4th. Spent a few hours pulling the tube(s) around and used only a little more than 1/2 a tank of gas. It sure was nice to have a shed right there to drop it without having to take the tops down and put a cover on it.
The remainder of items to be done can be done at a more leisurely pace, the drive to get the boat water ready by the 4th was aggressive, and it was a good point to get to as now we can use the boat anytime while we finish the project.
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Decided to get back working on the boat-
Installed (but not wired in) the switch panel:

Next it was putting the table bases in:


And then the mount for the trolling motor...

I'm going to make use of that flat beam against the back wall...


It's (the beam) a good 8 inches wide and about 88 inches up from the floor- I need a place to put the rafts when we aren't using them, so I'm going to put a shelf that spans the width of the shed (13 feet 7 inches) extending from the back wall about 5 feet 6 inches. I've got the plywood that was removed from the boat to use, so all I need to do is to frame it up. The height of the shelf will be just about perfect to slide the raft's into and out of the boat while on the boat.
So, that will be the next todo so I can get them out of the way. It will also come in handy to put hooks on the underside to hang all the life jackets, so we only need to take what we need.
I am really loving this shed.
Edited to replace symbols with verbal descriptive text, like feet, inches, etc.
Edited by pritch272 on 07/20/2009 at 4:32pm
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